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Social constructionism and the nature of reality

• Thread starter Iwasamwillbe
• Showtime date May six, 2020

• #1

Assuming that all of the major concepts that "brand up" our reality* are merely social constructs, shouldn't information technology be possible to misconstrue, change, or warp reality just by getting enough people to believe in something really difficult?

*"Major concepts" such as space, time, causality, matter, energy, the laws of physics, history, consciousness, change, life, death, momentum, etc.

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• #2

No but with a bit of flourish you lot could weave an excellent fantasy novel out of that premise. Non high fantasy, merely maybe something with a magic/steampunk hybrid, like Cathay Mieville's world in Perdido Street Station and Iron Council.

• #3

Merely if yous're playing Mage: The Rising

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• #4

No.

Social constructionism is false and gay.

• #half-dozen

Sounds like Videodrome, which was about a signal that creates a tumor that causes hallucinations and so vivid they actually rewrite reality itself.

• #7

Who do you think you are, Sutter Kain?

• #8

"Quantum Physics is misogny" article when?

• #9

Social constructionism is just solipsism with an added buffer which, come to recall of it, has a certain ironic tang to it. The obvious rebuttal to the solipsitstic viewpoint is that it's a cocky-defeating argument; the concept itself is just a subjective interpretation of reality and safely discarded on those grounds. Trying to unload the responsibility for that breed of nonsense on order as a whole is somehow even more pathetic.

• #ten

shouldn't it exist possible to distort, alter, or warp reality just by getting enough people to believe in something really difficult?
Theres a thread on a youtube aqueduct called Spirit Science, and they have washed a few episodes on mass meditation to alter reality.
Their version of history is that dorsum when we were at a "higher consciousness" we could will things into existence by mass meditation.
The whole channel is loopy and its pretty funny knowing theres a lot of people who fully believe the shit he says.
The comment section is full of adept stuff lol

• #11

I sort of had the same weird thought playing Assassin'south Creed: Odyssey earlier. The female main character said "Sparta can build every bit many ships they desire, it won't change that Poseidon sides with Athens". The superior army would not come out on height. Solely because a fictional god is believed past both parties, basically having both allies and enemies of Sparta tell them that they will non win. So they likely won.

"But why don't they only non quit assertive in gods?", because it'south the foundation of their lives. If they'd fifty-fifty get that far before beingness gutted for beingness heathens. Technically we can shape reality, only we're and so many polygons in that information technology would barely change anything. I don't really believe we'll hit another major leap in science from this point on.

• #12

Belief, or lack of information technology does and can non change fact. Julius Caesar'southward body was made of atoms whether he knew or believed information technology at the time or not. Pluto has been orbiting the dominicus for far longer than anyone has been enlightened of its being. If you got every being who has or volition ever live to deny the being of hydrogen atoms, those atoms would not go away or change their behavior.

EDIT: I guess another fashion to put this would be that there may be beings in the universe that create reality through what they believe or demand to be true, merely to quote Bob Dylan: it ain't us, babe.

• #13

No. Social constructionism is stupid and has no basis in reality.

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• #14

You lot were a fag and will be.

• #15

I sort of had the same weird thought playing Assassin's Creed: Odyssey earlier. The female main character said "Sparta tin build every bit many ships they want, it won't alter that Poseidon sides with Athens". The superior army would not come up out on peak. Solely because a fictional god is believed past both parties, basically having both allies and enemies of Sparta tell them that they volition not win. So they likely won.

"Merely why don't they simply not quit believing in gods?", considering it's the foundation of their lives. If they'd fifty-fifty become that far before being gutted for being heathens. Technically we can shape reality, but we're and so many polygons in that it would barely alter anything. I don't really believe we'll hit another major leap in science from this point on.

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In Hardcore History, Dan Carlin mentions an anecdote well-nigh a professor. The professor was talking almost ancient Roman politics and then he asks his course, "So what office exercise you think magic played in it?"

The class awkwardly waits until somebody says magic isn't existent. Then the professor says, "I know that. Only they didn't."

Magic/religion/superstition accept an effect on the real world in the sense that they guide behavior.

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• #sixteen

Dragons are a social construct. Doesn't mean you can bend dragons to your volition.

• #17

This is the reason for all the weird shit our masters get up to. Rituals, media, magic, predictive programming, it's just about getting everyone on the same page so seeming is existence.

"Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens tin can change the world; indeed, it's the only affair that e'er has."

• #18

Maybe if we were Orks.
Anyways the question is impossible to respond as we can't go all people to believe in a unmarried thing (specially since everything can have tons of interpretations) and if at that place is a change, it might rewrite reality and so that we tin't know at that place was a change.
Social constructionism is merely bullshit to argue why the metaphysical rules don't apply to you.

• #19

If it's scarlet it goes faster. That's all you need to know, grot.

In Hardcore History, Dan Carlin mentions an chestnut nigh a professor. The professor was talking about ancient Roman politics and then he asks his grade, "So what role do you think magic played in information technology?"

The form awkwardly waits until somebody says magic isn't existent. Then the professor says, "I know that. But they didn't."

Magic/religion/superstition have an effect on the real world in the sense that they guide behavior.

I tend to agree with this. If a "phenomenon" or a "sign" appears during a boxing and reinvigorates your soldiers I can see it every bit a possibility to turn the tide of battle, simply from your soldiers finding strength once more or your opponent becoming irritated from your refound spirit.

In the same sense, the Spartan navy soldier would be less concentrated and easier frightend or irritated when everyone keeps telling them Poseidon fights for Athens. Mistakes start to happen, morale isn't corking and you lose.

I approximate it goes the same with overall expansion. Rome thinking they have powers and are favored past the gods can brand them more than ambitious, more run a risk-friendly which could in turn make them more than cunning.

And so aye, I estimate it influences our perception and our actions of things, not the physical world itself. Thus, trough this... well distortion things can plough out differently.

• #20

I unironically believe cartoons are real and I constantly fall in love with fictional (frequently underage) characters. So, yep.

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